What if, during grappling, and on your feet in open gaurd, you had the fellas ankle pretty tight with 1 or 2 handed grip. Could you pull an ippon seoinage with it? I'm pretty sure you could if you had a decent one. How would that work?
Some guys with a grip can throw an elephant with a shoulder throw so I just wonder how it would go. Certainly you would end up superior and no threat of wraps and whatnot.
I think it would work. Try it.
No, you try it.
Ok, lets get Mikey.:)
I've gotten low enuff to pull one off during groundwork in squat position.
Full Version: Ippon Seoinage With 1 Leg?
well..never thought of it but i am defnitly gonan try it in class today. haha.
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Quantum JJ always looks so cool!! 
too bad no one is gonna try and kick you in the head in judo.
Also someone email the youtube people and tell them to install a slowmo button.
Also someone email the youtube people and tell them to install a slowmo button.
Nothing??? Really?
If you have the limb locked....no problem, I am sure. Same dynamics.
If you have the limb locked....no problem, I am sure. Same dynamics.
Or maybe 'morote seoinage' with both pant legs???
Easy. For sure.
Easy. For sure.
I have done that throw before but it was after I saw it in a book on Shuai Jiao. I thought it was cool but I doubt it will ever see the light of day again.
QUOTE(Gaijin Judoka @ Dec 20 2007, 11:46 PM) 
I have done that throw before but it was after I saw it in a book on Shuai Jiao. I thought it was cool but I doubt it will ever see the light of day again.
Hi, I have some (limited) experience with Shuai Chiao, and have seen this throw done live. Its a nice way to put a hurt on someone who throws a lazy roundhouse type kick. It's not particularly hard to pull off in my opinion, and would be something that might find some use in MMA or goshin perhaps?
In judo, if uke goes with it its ok. But if its a hard randori or a shiai, he wont want to fall on his back and will badly hurt himself IMO.
perhaps i'm misunderstanding the question, but if you're standing, in his open guard, how are you going to throw him with a shoulder throw? are you picking him up off the ground, then throwing over your shoulder? i can see how the throw in the video works (his center is waist high, or so), but if he's laying on the ground his center is so low you can't get leverage to really get him over unless you pick him up. is this what you intend on doing?
QUOTE(LonghornJudo @ Dec 23 2007, 02:56 AM)
perhaps i'm misunderstanding the question, but if you're standing, in his open guard, how are you going to throw him with a shoulder throw? are you picking him up off the ground, then throwing over your shoulder? i can see how the throw in the video works (his center is waist high, or so), but if he's laying on the ground his center is so low you can't get leverage to really get him over unless you pick him up. is this what you intend on doing?
Thats what I mean. Try it and let me know. It just reminded me of a tussle where I kinda osoto makikomi'd my friends leg and it worked, but the leg there seems to available for a leglock.
It isn't going to be a Koga throw but you can work it out to your advantage I think. If not, just pass gaurd again.:)
My thread title takes it too far I think and I apologize.
wow i was actually thinking about this the other day. really random but interesting.
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